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From: Magistar2@???.com Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 17:42:39 EST Subject: Re: IEN Fascists?
In a message dated 98-02-02 10:55:36 EST, you write:
<< 'Michael Childs wrote:'
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> >From: Magistar2 <Magistar2@???.com>
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> >Think a moment, what we veiw as evil others might veiw as good. Each
> side of
> >the war consider their sides to be good, after all, we'll we might veiw
> the
> >nazis as chaotic and evil, they would consider themselves lawful and
> good.
>
> Nazis chaotic evil? They had a dictatorship! The elves are considered
> chaotic and in the Monstrous Manual it says, "Elves value their
> individual freedom highly . . ." This was not the case in Nazi Germany,
> at least not what I hear from the americans. It is one of the problems
> with the alignment in AD&D. Lawful is considered good and chaotic is
> viewed as evil. However, chaotic is described as valuing individual
> freedom.
No this is actually an artifact of culture. If you break the law you
must be bad but if you adhere to it you are good. Cultures especially the
modern ones confuse law/chaos with good/evil. Modern culture seems to be
ln/cn no wonder we're so fu**** up. >>
Exactly!!! The spanish conquistatdors REALLY REALLY thought they were helping
the natives, too bad they had NO REALITY CONCEPT. Also, elves could have
helped the goblins earlier, elven society was never renound for evil. Living
space is it, put to totally diferrent cultures together and a war will happen.
It is a powder cage.
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Month Index: February, 1998
| Subject | From | Date (UTC) | ||
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| IEN Fascists? | gantr@???.edu | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Toby Mekelburg | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Paul and Kelly Westermeyer | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Bill McCrimmon | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Static | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Jeremy G. | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Static | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Wilson, M.D. | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | gantr@???.edu | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | gantr@???.edu | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Wilson, M.D. | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Wilson, M.D. | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Paul and Kelly Westermeyer | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Adam Miller | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Kevin Scardino | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | gantr@???.edu | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | gantr@???.edu | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Adam Miller | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | gantr@???.edu | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Jeremy G. | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Static | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Static | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Adam Miller | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Adam Miller | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Static | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Wilson, M.D. | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Daniel K. Sheff | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Toby Mekelburg | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Wilson, M.D. | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Daniel K. Sheff | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Static | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Static | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Kelly St.Clair | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | cowboybd@???????.??.??-??????.de | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | gantr@???.edu | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | gantr@???.edu | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Wilson, M.D. | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Static | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Static | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | John McCloud | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Wilson, M.D. | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | gantr@???.edu | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | steve swenson | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Areus | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | gantr@???.edu | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | gantr@???.edu | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | gantr@???.edu | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | steve swenson | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | steve swenson | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | steve swenson | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | steve swenson | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Jeremy G. | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Jeremy G. | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Wilson, M.D. | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Jeremy G. | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Downer, Chris | |||
| IEN Fascists? | David Sarkies | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | David Sarkies | |||
| IEN Fascists? | gantr@???.edu | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Daniel K. Sheff | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Daniel K. Sheff | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Daniel K. Sheff | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Daniel K. Sheff | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Daniel K. Sheff | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Wilson, M.D. | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Wilson, M.D. | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Michael Childs | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2@???.com | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | DiabloChico | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Michael Childs | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | gantr@???.edu | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Voidwolf@???.com | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Michael Childs | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | steve swenson | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Michael Childs | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2@???.com | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2@???.com | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2@???.com | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2@???.com | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | gantr@???.edu | |||
| IEN Fascists? | David Sarkies | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | gantr@???.edu | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Daniel Sheff | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Sue Brown | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Kevin Scardino | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Downer, Chris |