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From:     steve swenson <scott@??????.????????.com>
Date:     Mon, 2 Feb 1998 09:39:03 -0600 (CST)
Subject:  Re: IEN Fascists?
'Michael Childs wrote:'
>
>
>
>
> >From: Magistar2 <Magistar2@???.com>
>
> >
> >Think a moment, what we veiw as evil others might veiw as good.  Each
> side of
> >the war consider their sides to be good, after all, we'll we might veiw
> the
> >nazis as chaotic and evil, they would consider themselves lawful and
> good.
>
> Nazis chaotic evil?  They had a dictatorship!  The elves are considered
> chaotic and in the Monstrous Manual it says, "Elves value their
> individual freedom highly . . ." This was not the case in Nazi Germany,
> at least not what I hear from the americans.  It is one of the problems
> with the alignment in AD&D.  Lawful is considered good and chaotic is
> viewed as evil.  However, chaotic is described as valuing individual
> freedom.

    No this is actually an artifact of culture.  If you break the law you
must be bad but if you adhere to it you are good.  Cultures especially the
modern ones confuse law/chaos with good/evil.  Modern culture seems to be
ln/cn   no wonder we're so fu**** up.


           --Steve


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SubjectFromDate (UTC)
IEN Fascists?    gantr@???.edu    18 Jan 1998 15:54:39
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    19 Jan 1998 00:10:47
Re: IEN Fascists?    Toby Mekelburg    19 Jan 1998 04:46:46
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    19 Jan 1998 15:25:27
Re: IEN Fascists?    Paul and Kelly Westermeyer    19 Jan 1998 15:37:32
Re: IEN Fascists?    Bill McCrimmon    19 Jan 1998 18:39:39
Re: IEN Fascists?    Static    19 Jan 1998 22:29:53
Re: IEN Fascists?    Jeremy G.    19 Jan 1998 23:15:39
Re: IEN Fascists?    Downer, Chris    20 Jan 1998 00:02:20
Re: IEN Fascists?    Static    19 Jan 1998 23:42:35
Re: IEN Fascists?    Wilson, M.D.    19 Jan 1998 16:22:05
Re: IEN Fascists?    gantr@???.edu    20 Jan 1998 04:10:26
Re: IEN Fascists?    gantr@???.edu    20 Jan 1998 04:41:16
Re: IEN Fascists?    Wilson, M.D.    19 Jan 1998 21:58:50
Re: IEN Fascists?    Wilson, M.D.    20 Jan 1998 02:21:34
Re: IEN Fascists?    Paul and Kelly Westermeyer    20 Jan 1998 09:00:03
Re: IEN Fascists?    Adam Miller    20 Jan 1998 14:11:35
Re: IEN Fascists?    Downer, Chris    20 Jan 1998 16:59:29
Re: IEN Fascists?    Kevin Scardino    20 Jan 1998 17:51:55
Re: IEN Fascists?    Downer, Chris    20 Jan 1998 18:30:12
Re: IEN Fascists?    gantr@???.edu    20 Jan 1998 17:47:53
Re: IEN Fascists?    gantr@???.edu    20 Jan 1998 18:01:24
Re: IEN Fascists?    Adam Miller    20 Jan 1998 20:36:40
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    20 Jan 1998 21:43:46
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    20 Jan 1998 21:50:38
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    20 Jan 1998 22:07:08
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    20 Jan 1998 21:56:24
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    20 Jan 1998 22:00:20
Re: IEN Fascists?    Downer, Chris    20 Jan 1998 22:15:25
Re: IEN Fascists?    gantr@???.edu    20 Jan 1998 21:15:24
Re: IEN Fascists?    Downer, Chris    20 Jan 1998 22:13:06
Re: IEN Fascists?    Downer, Chris    20 Jan 1998 22:53:38
Re: IEN Fascists?    Jeremy G.    20 Jan 1998 23:23:15
Re: IEN Fascists?    Static    20 Jan 1998 23:35:22
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    21 Jan 1998 00:00:27
Re: IEN Fascists?    Static    21 Jan 1998 00:05:43
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    20 Jan 1998 23:58:30
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    21 Jan 1998 00:04:03
Re: IEN Fascists?    Adam Miller    21 Jan 1998 00:12:51
Re: IEN Fascists?    Adam Miller    21 Jan 1998 00:12:55
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    20 Jan 1998 23:49:54
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    20 Jan 1998 23:48:36
Re: IEN Fascists?    Static    20 Jan 1998 23:59:26
Re: IEN Fascists?    Wilson, M.D.    20 Jan 1998 22:06:57
Re: IEN Fascists?    Daniel K. Sheff    21 Jan 1998 02:29:12
Re: IEN Fascists?    Toby Mekelburg    21 Jan 1998 02:24:11
Re: IEN Fascists?    Wilson, M.D.    20 Jan 1998 22:16:54
Re: IEN Fascists?    Daniel K. Sheff    21 Jan 1998 02:40:51
Re: IEN Fascists?    Static    21 Jan 1998 03:19:39
Re: IEN Fascists?    Static    21 Jan 1998 03:40:04
Re: IEN Fascists?    Kelly St.Clair    21 Jan 1998 08:51:54
Re: IEN Fascists?    cowboybd@???????.??.??-??????.de    21 Jan 1998 12:08:28
Re: IEN Fascists?    gantr@???.edu    21 Jan 1998 16:28:36
Re: IEN Fascists?    Downer, Chris    21 Jan 1998 17:32:52
Re: IEN Fascists?    gantr@???.edu    21 Jan 1998 16:32:57
Re: IEN Fascists?    Downer, Chris    21 Jan 1998 17:33:53
Re: IEN Fascists?    Wilson, M.D.    20 Jan 1998 22:34:44
Re: IEN Fascists?    Downer, Chris    21 Jan 1998 17:49:04
Re: IEN Fascists?    Downer, Chris    21 Jan 1998 17:45:25
Re: IEN Fascists?    Static    21 Jan 1998 18:33:33
Re: IEN Fascists?    Static    21 Jan 1998 18:43:01
Re: IEN Fascists?    Downer, Chris    21 Jan 1998 19:15:23
Re: IEN Fascists?    John McCloud    21 Jan 1998 20:21:36
Re: IEN Fascists?    Wilson, M.D.    21 Jan 1998 20:58:52
Re: IEN Fascists?    gantr@???.edu    22 Jan 1998 14:24:17
Re: IEN Fascists?    steve swenson    22 Jan 1998 16:30:30
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    22 Jan 1998 20:57:06
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    22 Jan 1998 21:51:37
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    22 Jan 1998 21:43:17
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    22 Jan 1998 21:57:19
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    22 Jan 1998 22:01:29
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    22 Jan 1998 22:05:59
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    22 Jan 1998 22:08:49
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    22 Jan 1998 22:14:20
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    22 Jan 1998 22:10:14
Re: IEN Fascists?    Areus    23 Jan 1998 10:45:22
Re: IEN Fascists?    Downer, Chris    22 Jan 1998 22:47:01
Re: IEN Fascists?    gantr@???.edu    22 Jan 1998 21:47:51
Re: IEN Fascists?    Downer, Chris    22 Jan 1998 22:49:32
Re: IEN Fascists?    gantr@???.edu    22 Jan 1998 21:51:46
Re: IEN Fascists?    gantr@???.edu    22 Jan 1998 21:55:54
Re: IEN Fascists?    steve swenson    22 Jan 1998 23:02:00
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    22 Jan 1998 23:07:20
Re: IEN Fascists?    steve swenson    22 Jan 1998 23:15:46
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    22 Jan 1998 23:10:45
Re: IEN Fascists?    steve swenson    22 Jan 1998 23:23:32
Re: IEN Fascists?    Downer, Chris    22 Jan 1998 23:27:28
Re: IEN Fascists?    steve swenson    22 Jan 1998 23:28:18
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    22 Jan 1998 23:25:25
Re: IEN Fascists?    Downer, Chris    22 Jan 1998 23:29:45
Re: IEN Fascists?    Downer, Chris    22 Jan 1998 23:32:15
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    22 Jan 1998 23:36:41
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    22 Jan 1998 23:31:45
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    22 Jan 1998 23:43:44
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    22 Jan 1998 23:45:25
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    22 Jan 1998 23:47:34
Re: IEN Fascists?    Downer, Chris    22 Jan 1998 23:58:20
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    22 Jan 1998 23:48:30
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    22 Jan 1998 23:51:15
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    23 Jan 1998 00:15:51
Re: IEN Fascists?    Jeremy G.    23 Jan 1998 01:16:10
Re: IEN Fascists?    Jeremy G.    23 Jan 1998 01:18:33
Re: IEN Fascists?    Wilson, M.D.    22 Jan 1998 13:45:10
Re: IEN Fascists?    Jeremy G.    23 Jan 1998 01:30:54
Re: IEN Fascists?    Downer, Chris    23 Jan 1998 19:25:14
IEN Fascists?    David Sarkies    24 Jan 1998 03:57:58
Re: IEN Fascists?    David Sarkies    24 Jan 1998 04:00:51
IEN Fascists?    gantr@???.edu    18 Jan 1998 15:54:39
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    26 Jan 1998 02:05:07
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    26 Jan 1998 02:07:49
Re: IEN Fascists?    Daniel K. Sheff    26 Jan 1998 02:53:11
Re: IEN Fascists?    Daniel K. Sheff    26 Jan 1998 03:02:30
Re: IEN Fascists?    Daniel K. Sheff    26 Jan 1998 03:04:35
Re: IEN Fascists?    Daniel K. Sheff    26 Jan 1998 03:15:06
Re: IEN Fascists?    Daniel K. Sheff    26 Jan 1998 03:18:58
Re: IEN Fascists?    Wilson, M.D.    26 Jan 1998 21:26:30
Re: IEN Fascists?    Downer, Chris    27 Jan 1998 16:16:09
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    27 Jan 1998 22:28:53
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    27 Jan 1998 22:36:25
Re: IEN Fascists?    Wilson, M.D.    26 Jan 1998 21:26:30
Re: IEN Fascists?    Michael Childs    31 Jan 1998 16:12:12
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2@???.com    31 Jan 1998 17:55:32
Re: IEN Fascists?    DiabloChico    31 Jan 1998 22:31:05
Re: IEN Fascists?    Michael Childs    01 Feb 1998 16:43:34
Re: IEN Fascists?    gantr@???.edu    01 Feb 1998 18:21:04
Re: IEN Fascists?    Voidwolf@???.com    02 Feb 1998 03:32:02
Re: IEN Fascists?    Michael Childs    02 Feb 1998 14:26:39
Re: IEN Fascists?    steve swenson    02 Feb 1998 15:39:03
Re: IEN Fascists?    Michael Childs    02 Feb 1998 16:37:58
Re: IEN Fascists?    Downer, Chris    02 Feb 1998 18:44:10
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2@???.com    03 Feb 1998 22:32:19
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2@???.com    03 Feb 1998 22:34:48
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2@???.com    03 Feb 1998 22:42:39
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2@???.com    03 Feb 1998 22:48:17
Re: IEN Fascists?    gantr@???.edu    03 Feb 1998 22:55:39
IEN Fascists?    David Sarkies    04 Feb 1998 12:47:55
Re: IEN Fascists?    gantr@???.edu    04 Feb 1998 15:44:45
Re: IEN Fascists?    Downer, Chris    09 Feb 1998 17:06:47
Re: IEN Fascists?    Daniel Sheff    16 Feb 1998 03:38:54
Re: IEN Fascists?    Downer, Chris    19 Feb 1998 20:32:22
Re: IEN Fascists?    Sue Brown    19 Feb 1998 21:03:46
Re: IEN Fascists?    Kevin Scardino    19 Feb 1998 21:45:14
Re: IEN Fascists?    Downer, Chris    20 Feb 1998 17:09:39

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