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From: Michael Childs <miachel@???????.com> Date: Mon, 02 Feb 1998 06:26:39 PST Subject: Re: IEN Fascists?
>From: Magistar2 <Magistar2@???.com> > >Think a moment, what we veiw as evil others might veiw as good. Each side of >the war consider their sides to be good, after all, we'll we might veiw the >nazis as chaotic and evil, they would consider themselves lawful and good. Nazis chaotic evil? They had a dictatorship! The elves are considered chaotic and in the Monstrous Manual it says, "Elves value their individual freedom highly . . ." This was not the case in Nazi Germany, at least not what I hear from the americans. It is one of the problems with the alignment in AD&D. Lawful is considered good and chaotic is viewed as evil. However, chaotic is described as valuing individual freedom. >Also, the elves wanted genocide for a reason, elves and goblins prey on each other. When they were wild this kept both populations in check, now that they are social the dominent side must win. So which one would you like controlling space? Goblins or Elves (Which I think will definettly loosen up greatly after the loss of the threat real or imagined) Think about, goblins have attack elves since the dawn of time, so in case we might see genocide, they see acts of goodfulness. Especially due to that the goblins are evil. However what was meant to be good has turned evil. They are fanatics- redoubled for efforts but lost their goals. Right now I think someone should walk up to the elven senate and set them straight! >********************************************************************* > As for good and evil. Goblins are considered evil, for what, they will kill just for the pleasure of it. Lots of humans will kill just for the pleasure of it, they call it hunting. As for their tendency to spoil their habitat, so did humans. Some may consider slavery as evil but it fits more with the lawful/chaotic part of the alignment. Chaotic societies believe in individual freedom and would not have slaves, Goblins are lawful and everything has its place in their society including the slaves. As for their appetite for eating humans and demihumans, they use all the useful material from the game the kill, which would make them better then some humans today. All in all, the goblins do not appear to be an evil race, merely a race that is very similar to a less developed group of humans. The true evil is the people that are organising a campaign of genocide against these misunderstood, primitive creatures. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
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| IEN Fascists? | gantr@???.edu | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Toby Mekelburg | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Paul and Kelly Westermeyer | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Bill McCrimmon | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Static | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Jeremy G. | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Static | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Wilson, M.D. | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | gantr@???.edu | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | gantr@???.edu | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Wilson, M.D. | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Wilson, M.D. | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Paul and Kelly Westermeyer | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Adam Miller | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Kevin Scardino | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | gantr@???.edu | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | gantr@???.edu | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Adam Miller | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | gantr@???.edu | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Jeremy G. | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Static | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Static | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Adam Miller | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Adam Miller | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Static | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Wilson, M.D. | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Daniel K. Sheff | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Toby Mekelburg | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Wilson, M.D. | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Daniel K. Sheff | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Static | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Static | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Kelly St.Clair | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | cowboybd@???????.??.??-??????.de | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | gantr@???.edu | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | gantr@???.edu | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Wilson, M.D. | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Static | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Static | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | John McCloud | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Wilson, M.D. | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | gantr@???.edu | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | steve swenson | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Areus | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | gantr@???.edu | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | gantr@???.edu | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | gantr@???.edu | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | steve swenson | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | steve swenson | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | steve swenson | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | steve swenson | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Jeremy G. | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Jeremy G. | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Wilson, M.D. | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Jeremy G. | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Downer, Chris | |||
| IEN Fascists? | David Sarkies | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | David Sarkies | |||
| IEN Fascists? | gantr@???.edu | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Daniel K. Sheff | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Daniel K. Sheff | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Daniel K. Sheff | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Daniel K. Sheff | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Daniel K. Sheff | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Wilson, M.D. | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Wilson, M.D. | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Michael Childs | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2@???.com | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | DiabloChico | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Michael Childs | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | gantr@???.edu | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Voidwolf@???.com | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Michael Childs | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | steve swenson | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Michael Childs | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2@???.com | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2@???.com | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2@???.com | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2@???.com | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | gantr@???.edu | |||
| IEN Fascists? | David Sarkies | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | gantr@???.edu | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Daniel Sheff | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Sue Brown | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Kevin Scardino | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Downer, Chris |