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From:     Michael Childs <miachel@???????.com>
Date:     Sun, 01 Feb 1998 08:43:34 PST
Subject:  Re: IEN Fascists?
>On Tue, 20 Jan 1998, Adam Miller wrote:
>
>> 	This happens with almost any pre-modern war, and with most modern
>> wars.  What I dislike about your arguement is that it seems you are
>> holding the IEN to standards that even the modern US military cannot
>> uphold.  Though elves live a long time, they can and do make
mistakes.
>> Though I hate to use the term (but I can't think of another), elves
are
>> only "human."  They have emotions and feelings, just like everyone
>> else.

Elves are not only "human", they are elves.  The human race is neutral
while elves are chaotic good.  Humans, being neutral are more likely to
go on murderous rampages when they feel like they have been badly
treated.  These people are the neutral ones.  Evil humans are people who
decided to stop being victims and get everybody before someone goes
against them.  Humans that could be classified as good would forgive
their enemies and try to teach the error of their ways, nonvioletly.
Resorting to violence only in self defence.  Obviously, their are very
very few people who could classify themselves as good on this planet
which is why humans are neutral.


>The point here is that the elves fired first.  That is one of the
reasons
>the goblinoids developed (among other things) Witchlight Marauders.
They
>SAW the elves attack and destroy their worlds.  They SAW the elves
murder
>their wives, their children, their friends, and entire communities.
They
>fought back just as brutally as the elves who started it.  They did
"want
>to kill them all".  They did want to "use every weapon at [their]
disposal
>to wipe their kind from the face of the Earth".
>
>I'm not trying to hold elves to "standards not even the modern US
military
>can uphold".  I am trying to hold them to the standards they hold
>themselves to, according to everything I have read about AD&D elves.
>Worldsmashing, treaty-twisting, and genocide are not part of the elven
code of ethics.
>
>Rich Grant

Treaty-twisting, genocide?  Sounds like you are talking about
respectable Drow.  Perhaps someday soon their is going to be another
elfwar as the Good elves purge their society of the returning evil.





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Month Index: February, 1998

SubjectFromDate (UTC)
IEN Fascists?    gantr@???.edu    18 Jan 1998 15:54:39
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    19 Jan 1998 00:10:47
Re: IEN Fascists?    Toby Mekelburg    19 Jan 1998 04:46:46
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    19 Jan 1998 15:25:27
Re: IEN Fascists?    Paul and Kelly Westermeyer    19 Jan 1998 15:37:32
Re: IEN Fascists?    Bill McCrimmon    19 Jan 1998 18:39:39
Re: IEN Fascists?    Static    19 Jan 1998 22:29:53
Re: IEN Fascists?    Jeremy G.    19 Jan 1998 23:15:39
Re: IEN Fascists?    Downer, Chris    20 Jan 1998 00:02:20
Re: IEN Fascists?    Static    19 Jan 1998 23:42:35
Re: IEN Fascists?    Wilson, M.D.    19 Jan 1998 16:22:05
Re: IEN Fascists?    gantr@???.edu    20 Jan 1998 04:10:26
Re: IEN Fascists?    gantr@???.edu    20 Jan 1998 04:41:16
Re: IEN Fascists?    Wilson, M.D.    19 Jan 1998 21:58:50
Re: IEN Fascists?    Wilson, M.D.    20 Jan 1998 02:21:34
Re: IEN Fascists?    Paul and Kelly Westermeyer    20 Jan 1998 09:00:03
Re: IEN Fascists?    Adam Miller    20 Jan 1998 14:11:35
Re: IEN Fascists?    Downer, Chris    20 Jan 1998 16:59:29
Re: IEN Fascists?    Kevin Scardino    20 Jan 1998 17:51:55
Re: IEN Fascists?    Downer, Chris    20 Jan 1998 18:30:12
Re: IEN Fascists?    gantr@???.edu    20 Jan 1998 17:47:53
Re: IEN Fascists?    gantr@???.edu    20 Jan 1998 18:01:24
Re: IEN Fascists?    Adam Miller    20 Jan 1998 20:36:40
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    20 Jan 1998 21:43:46
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    20 Jan 1998 21:50:38
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    20 Jan 1998 22:07:08
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    20 Jan 1998 21:56:24
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    20 Jan 1998 22:00:20
Re: IEN Fascists?    Downer, Chris    20 Jan 1998 22:15:25
Re: IEN Fascists?    gantr@???.edu    20 Jan 1998 21:15:24
Re: IEN Fascists?    Downer, Chris    20 Jan 1998 22:13:06
Re: IEN Fascists?    Downer, Chris    20 Jan 1998 22:53:38
Re: IEN Fascists?    Jeremy G.    20 Jan 1998 23:23:15
Re: IEN Fascists?    Static    20 Jan 1998 23:35:22
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    21 Jan 1998 00:00:27
Re: IEN Fascists?    Static    21 Jan 1998 00:05:43
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    20 Jan 1998 23:58:30
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    21 Jan 1998 00:04:03
Re: IEN Fascists?    Adam Miller    21 Jan 1998 00:12:51
Re: IEN Fascists?    Adam Miller    21 Jan 1998 00:12:55
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    20 Jan 1998 23:49:54
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    20 Jan 1998 23:48:36
Re: IEN Fascists?    Static    20 Jan 1998 23:59:26
Re: IEN Fascists?    Wilson, M.D.    20 Jan 1998 22:06:57
Re: IEN Fascists?    Daniel K. Sheff    21 Jan 1998 02:29:12
Re: IEN Fascists?    Toby Mekelburg    21 Jan 1998 02:24:11
Re: IEN Fascists?    Wilson, M.D.    20 Jan 1998 22:16:54
Re: IEN Fascists?    Daniel K. Sheff    21 Jan 1998 02:40:51
Re: IEN Fascists?    Static    21 Jan 1998 03:19:39
Re: IEN Fascists?    Static    21 Jan 1998 03:40:04
Re: IEN Fascists?    Kelly St.Clair    21 Jan 1998 08:51:54
Re: IEN Fascists?    cowboybd@???????.??.??-??????.de    21 Jan 1998 12:08:28
Re: IEN Fascists?    gantr@???.edu    21 Jan 1998 16:28:36
Re: IEN Fascists?    Downer, Chris    21 Jan 1998 17:32:52
Re: IEN Fascists?    gantr@???.edu    21 Jan 1998 16:32:57
Re: IEN Fascists?    Downer, Chris    21 Jan 1998 17:33:53
Re: IEN Fascists?    Wilson, M.D.    20 Jan 1998 22:34:44
Re: IEN Fascists?    Downer, Chris    21 Jan 1998 17:49:04
Re: IEN Fascists?    Downer, Chris    21 Jan 1998 17:45:25
Re: IEN Fascists?    Static    21 Jan 1998 18:33:33
Re: IEN Fascists?    Static    21 Jan 1998 18:43:01
Re: IEN Fascists?    Downer, Chris    21 Jan 1998 19:15:23
Re: IEN Fascists?    John McCloud    21 Jan 1998 20:21:36
Re: IEN Fascists?    Wilson, M.D.    21 Jan 1998 20:58:52
Re: IEN Fascists?    gantr@???.edu    22 Jan 1998 14:24:17
Re: IEN Fascists?    steve swenson    22 Jan 1998 16:30:30
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    22 Jan 1998 20:57:06
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    22 Jan 1998 21:51:37
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    22 Jan 1998 21:43:17
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    22 Jan 1998 21:57:19
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    22 Jan 1998 22:01:29
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    22 Jan 1998 22:05:59
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    22 Jan 1998 22:08:49
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    22 Jan 1998 22:14:20
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    22 Jan 1998 22:10:14
Re: IEN Fascists?    Areus    23 Jan 1998 10:45:22
Re: IEN Fascists?    Downer, Chris    22 Jan 1998 22:47:01
Re: IEN Fascists?    gantr@???.edu    22 Jan 1998 21:47:51
Re: IEN Fascists?    Downer, Chris    22 Jan 1998 22:49:32
Re: IEN Fascists?    gantr@???.edu    22 Jan 1998 21:51:46
Re: IEN Fascists?    gantr@???.edu    22 Jan 1998 21:55:54
Re: IEN Fascists?    steve swenson    22 Jan 1998 23:02:00
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    22 Jan 1998 23:07:20
Re: IEN Fascists?    steve swenson    22 Jan 1998 23:15:46
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    22 Jan 1998 23:10:45
Re: IEN Fascists?    steve swenson    22 Jan 1998 23:23:32
Re: IEN Fascists?    Downer, Chris    22 Jan 1998 23:27:28
Re: IEN Fascists?    steve swenson    22 Jan 1998 23:28:18
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    22 Jan 1998 23:25:25
Re: IEN Fascists?    Downer, Chris    22 Jan 1998 23:29:45
Re: IEN Fascists?    Downer, Chris    22 Jan 1998 23:32:15
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    22 Jan 1998 23:36:41
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    22 Jan 1998 23:31:45
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    22 Jan 1998 23:43:44
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    22 Jan 1998 23:45:25
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    22 Jan 1998 23:47:34
Re: IEN Fascists?    Downer, Chris    22 Jan 1998 23:58:20
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    22 Jan 1998 23:48:30
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    22 Jan 1998 23:51:15
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    23 Jan 1998 00:15:51
Re: IEN Fascists?    Jeremy G.    23 Jan 1998 01:16:10
Re: IEN Fascists?    Jeremy G.    23 Jan 1998 01:18:33
Re: IEN Fascists?    Wilson, M.D.    22 Jan 1998 13:45:10
Re: IEN Fascists?    Jeremy G.    23 Jan 1998 01:30:54
Re: IEN Fascists?    Downer, Chris    23 Jan 1998 19:25:14
IEN Fascists?    David Sarkies    24 Jan 1998 03:57:58
Re: IEN Fascists?    David Sarkies    24 Jan 1998 04:00:51
IEN Fascists?    gantr@???.edu    18 Jan 1998 15:54:39
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    26 Jan 1998 02:05:07
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    26 Jan 1998 02:07:49
Re: IEN Fascists?    Daniel K. Sheff    26 Jan 1998 02:53:11
Re: IEN Fascists?    Daniel K. Sheff    26 Jan 1998 03:02:30
Re: IEN Fascists?    Daniel K. Sheff    26 Jan 1998 03:04:35
Re: IEN Fascists?    Daniel K. Sheff    26 Jan 1998 03:15:06
Re: IEN Fascists?    Daniel K. Sheff    26 Jan 1998 03:18:58
Re: IEN Fascists?    Wilson, M.D.    26 Jan 1998 21:26:30
Re: IEN Fascists?    Downer, Chris    27 Jan 1998 16:16:09
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    27 Jan 1998 22:28:53
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    27 Jan 1998 22:36:25
Re: IEN Fascists?    Wilson, M.D.    26 Jan 1998 21:26:30
Re: IEN Fascists?    Michael Childs    31 Jan 1998 16:12:12
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2@???.com    31 Jan 1998 17:55:32
Re: IEN Fascists?    DiabloChico    31 Jan 1998 22:31:05
Re: IEN Fascists?    Michael Childs    01 Feb 1998 16:43:34
Re: IEN Fascists?    gantr@???.edu    01 Feb 1998 18:21:04
Re: IEN Fascists?    Voidwolf@???.com    02 Feb 1998 03:32:02
Re: IEN Fascists?    Michael Childs    02 Feb 1998 14:26:39
Re: IEN Fascists?    steve swenson    02 Feb 1998 15:39:03
Re: IEN Fascists?    Michael Childs    02 Feb 1998 16:37:58
Re: IEN Fascists?    Downer, Chris    02 Feb 1998 18:44:10
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2@???.com    03 Feb 1998 22:32:19
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2@???.com    03 Feb 1998 22:34:48
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2@???.com    03 Feb 1998 22:42:39
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2@???.com    03 Feb 1998 22:48:17
Re: IEN Fascists?    gantr@???.edu    03 Feb 1998 22:55:39
IEN Fascists?    David Sarkies    04 Feb 1998 12:47:55
Re: IEN Fascists?    gantr@???.edu    04 Feb 1998 15:44:45
Re: IEN Fascists?    Downer, Chris    09 Feb 1998 17:06:47
Re: IEN Fascists?    Daniel Sheff    16 Feb 1998 03:38:54
Re: IEN Fascists?    Downer, Chris    19 Feb 1998 20:32:22
Re: IEN Fascists?    Sue Brown    19 Feb 1998 21:03:46
Re: IEN Fascists?    Kevin Scardino    19 Feb 1998 21:45:14
Re: IEN Fascists?    Downer, Chris    20 Feb 1998 17:09:39

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