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From: Michael Childs <miachel@???????.com> Date: Sun, 01 Feb 1998 08:43:34 PST Subject: Re: IEN Fascists?
>On Tue, 20 Jan 1998, Adam Miller wrote: > >> This happens with almost any pre-modern war, and with most modern >> wars. What I dislike about your arguement is that it seems you are >> holding the IEN to standards that even the modern US military cannot >> uphold. Though elves live a long time, they can and do make mistakes. >> Though I hate to use the term (but I can't think of another), elves are >> only "human." They have emotions and feelings, just like everyone >> else. Elves are not only "human", they are elves. The human race is neutral while elves are chaotic good. Humans, being neutral are more likely to go on murderous rampages when they feel like they have been badly treated. These people are the neutral ones. Evil humans are people who decided to stop being victims and get everybody before someone goes against them. Humans that could be classified as good would forgive their enemies and try to teach the error of their ways, nonvioletly. Resorting to violence only in self defence. Obviously, their are very very few people who could classify themselves as good on this planet which is why humans are neutral. >The point here is that the elves fired first. That is one of the reasons >the goblinoids developed (among other things) Witchlight Marauders. They >SAW the elves attack and destroy their worlds. They SAW the elves murder >their wives, their children, their friends, and entire communities. They >fought back just as brutally as the elves who started it. They did "want >to kill them all". They did want to "use every weapon at [their] disposal >to wipe their kind from the face of the Earth". > >I'm not trying to hold elves to "standards not even the modern US military >can uphold". I am trying to hold them to the standards they hold >themselves to, according to everything I have read about AD&D elves. >Worldsmashing, treaty-twisting, and genocide are not part of the elven code of ethics. > >Rich Grant Treaty-twisting, genocide? Sounds like you are talking about respectable Drow. Perhaps someday soon their is going to be another elfwar as the Good elves purge their society of the returning evil. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
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Month Index: February, 1998
| Subject | From | Date (UTC) | ||
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| IEN Fascists? | gantr@???.edu | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Toby Mekelburg | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Paul and Kelly Westermeyer | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Bill McCrimmon | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Static | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Jeremy G. | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Static | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Wilson, M.D. | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | gantr@???.edu | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | gantr@???.edu | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Wilson, M.D. | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Wilson, M.D. | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Paul and Kelly Westermeyer | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Adam Miller | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Kevin Scardino | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | gantr@???.edu | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | gantr@???.edu | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Adam Miller | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | gantr@???.edu | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Jeremy G. | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Static | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Static | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Adam Miller | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Adam Miller | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Static | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Wilson, M.D. | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Daniel K. Sheff | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Toby Mekelburg | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Wilson, M.D. | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Daniel K. Sheff | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Static | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Static | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Kelly St.Clair | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | cowboybd@???????.??.??-??????.de | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | gantr@???.edu | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | gantr@???.edu | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Wilson, M.D. | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Static | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Static | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | John McCloud | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Wilson, M.D. | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | gantr@???.edu | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | steve swenson | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Areus | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | gantr@???.edu | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | gantr@???.edu | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | gantr@???.edu | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | steve swenson | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | steve swenson | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | steve swenson | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | steve swenson | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Jeremy G. | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Jeremy G. | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Wilson, M.D. | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Jeremy G. | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Downer, Chris | |||
| IEN Fascists? | David Sarkies | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | David Sarkies | |||
| IEN Fascists? | gantr@???.edu | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Daniel K. Sheff | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Daniel K. Sheff | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Daniel K. Sheff | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Daniel K. Sheff | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Daniel K. Sheff | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Wilson, M.D. | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2 | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Wilson, M.D. | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Michael Childs | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2@???.com | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | DiabloChico | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Michael Childs | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | gantr@???.edu | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Voidwolf@???.com | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Michael Childs | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | steve swenson | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Michael Childs | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2@???.com | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2@???.com | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2@???.com | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Magistar2@???.com | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | gantr@???.edu | |||
| IEN Fascists? | David Sarkies | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | gantr@???.edu | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Daniel Sheff | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Sue Brown | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Kevin Scardino | |||
| Re: IEN Fascists? | Downer, Chris |