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From:     John McCloud <jmccloud@?????.????.edu>
Date:     Wed, 21 Jan 1998 12:21:36 -0800 (PST)
Subject:  Re: IEN Fascists?
	I am really enjoying this thread.  Here are my two cents:

	I have never really liked the alignment system.  I don't like
races to be black or white, but rather grey.  Rigid attitudes are good
for individuals, but not groups that can change due to their environment.
	I treat humanoids as barbarians.  They have bad hygiene, low
technology, and are not educated.  However, humanoids in wildspace (and
some terrestrial enclaves) have greater opportunities.  Some of these
include the ability to develop on a world by themselves without the
threats of other races.  Others include aid by races lacking a prejudicial
bias.  The result is that wildspace humanoids are more educated,
understand and use advanced technology (like spelljamming), and are
generally more aware of their surroundings.  This enables them to
function in a more "civilized" manner and also makes them more agreeable
to other races.
	Humanoids such as orcs still have a highly agressive nature as
part of their genetic makeup.  This can get them into trouble, but does
not relegate them to the status of local villain.  Think of the Klingons
in Star Trek, for example.  They enjoy fighting.  They live for
conflict.  But they can get along with others as well.
	However, some races have a bigoted attitude toward humanoids.
The Elven Imperial Navy has an inbred distrust.  All humanoids are
savages to them.  The Elves tend not to be genocidal, but they are
willing to use lethal force to get their way.  For historical examples,
consider the Spanish conquest of the Aztecs and Incas or U.S. manifest
destiny and the treatment of native americans.  "We want the gold/land
and you're in our way."
	Finally, one of the reasons I use this policy for humanoids is
that I grew sick of players killing every humanoid they came across.
"Oh, it's an orc.  Kill it."  Humanoids were considered to be
unintelligent monsters to be slaughtered at will.  By giving humanoids a
more flexible attitude, it keeps the players off balance and prevents
them from making automatic assumptions.

John McCloud


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IEN Fascists?    gantr@???.edu    18 Jan 1998 15:54:39
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    19 Jan 1998 00:10:47
Re: IEN Fascists?    Toby Mekelburg    19 Jan 1998 04:46:46
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    19 Jan 1998 15:25:27
Re: IEN Fascists?    Paul and Kelly Westermeyer    19 Jan 1998 15:37:32
Re: IEN Fascists?    Bill McCrimmon    19 Jan 1998 18:39:39
Re: IEN Fascists?    Static    19 Jan 1998 22:29:53
Re: IEN Fascists?    Jeremy G.    19 Jan 1998 23:15:39
Re: IEN Fascists?    Downer, Chris    20 Jan 1998 00:02:20
Re: IEN Fascists?    Static    19 Jan 1998 23:42:35
Re: IEN Fascists?    Wilson, M.D.    19 Jan 1998 16:22:05
Re: IEN Fascists?    gantr@???.edu    20 Jan 1998 04:10:26
Re: IEN Fascists?    gantr@???.edu    20 Jan 1998 04:41:16
Re: IEN Fascists?    Wilson, M.D.    19 Jan 1998 21:58:50
Re: IEN Fascists?    Wilson, M.D.    20 Jan 1998 02:21:34
Re: IEN Fascists?    Paul and Kelly Westermeyer    20 Jan 1998 09:00:03
Re: IEN Fascists?    Adam Miller    20 Jan 1998 14:11:35
Re: IEN Fascists?    Downer, Chris    20 Jan 1998 16:59:29
Re: IEN Fascists?    Kevin Scardino    20 Jan 1998 17:51:55
Re: IEN Fascists?    Downer, Chris    20 Jan 1998 18:30:12
Re: IEN Fascists?    gantr@???.edu    20 Jan 1998 17:47:53
Re: IEN Fascists?    gantr@???.edu    20 Jan 1998 18:01:24
Re: IEN Fascists?    Adam Miller    20 Jan 1998 20:36:40
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    20 Jan 1998 21:43:46
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    20 Jan 1998 21:50:38
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    20 Jan 1998 22:07:08
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    20 Jan 1998 21:56:24
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    20 Jan 1998 22:00:20
Re: IEN Fascists?    Downer, Chris    20 Jan 1998 22:15:25
Re: IEN Fascists?    gantr@???.edu    20 Jan 1998 21:15:24
Re: IEN Fascists?    Downer, Chris    20 Jan 1998 22:13:06
Re: IEN Fascists?    Downer, Chris    20 Jan 1998 22:53:38
Re: IEN Fascists?    Jeremy G.    20 Jan 1998 23:23:15
Re: IEN Fascists?    Static    20 Jan 1998 23:35:22
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    21 Jan 1998 00:00:27
Re: IEN Fascists?    Static    21 Jan 1998 00:05:43
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    20 Jan 1998 23:58:30
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    21 Jan 1998 00:04:03
Re: IEN Fascists?    Adam Miller    21 Jan 1998 00:12:51
Re: IEN Fascists?    Adam Miller    21 Jan 1998 00:12:55
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    20 Jan 1998 23:49:54
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    20 Jan 1998 23:48:36
Re: IEN Fascists?    Static    20 Jan 1998 23:59:26
Re: IEN Fascists?    Wilson, M.D.    20 Jan 1998 22:06:57
Re: IEN Fascists?    Daniel K. Sheff    21 Jan 1998 02:29:12
Re: IEN Fascists?    Toby Mekelburg    21 Jan 1998 02:24:11
Re: IEN Fascists?    Wilson, M.D.    20 Jan 1998 22:16:54
Re: IEN Fascists?    Daniel K. Sheff    21 Jan 1998 02:40:51
Re: IEN Fascists?    Static    21 Jan 1998 03:19:39
Re: IEN Fascists?    Static    21 Jan 1998 03:40:04
Re: IEN Fascists?    Kelly St.Clair    21 Jan 1998 08:51:54
Re: IEN Fascists?    cowboybd@???????.??.??-??????.de    21 Jan 1998 12:08:28
Re: IEN Fascists?    gantr@???.edu    21 Jan 1998 16:28:36
Re: IEN Fascists?    Downer, Chris    21 Jan 1998 17:32:52
Re: IEN Fascists?    gantr@???.edu    21 Jan 1998 16:32:57
Re: IEN Fascists?    Downer, Chris    21 Jan 1998 17:33:53
Re: IEN Fascists?    Wilson, M.D.    20 Jan 1998 22:34:44
Re: IEN Fascists?    Downer, Chris    21 Jan 1998 17:49:04
Re: IEN Fascists?    Downer, Chris    21 Jan 1998 17:45:25
Re: IEN Fascists?    Static    21 Jan 1998 18:33:33
Re: IEN Fascists?    Static    21 Jan 1998 18:43:01
Re: IEN Fascists?    Downer, Chris    21 Jan 1998 19:15:23
Re: IEN Fascists?    John McCloud    21 Jan 1998 20:21:36
Re: IEN Fascists?    Wilson, M.D.    21 Jan 1998 20:58:52
Re: IEN Fascists?    gantr@???.edu    22 Jan 1998 14:24:17
Re: IEN Fascists?    steve swenson    22 Jan 1998 16:30:30
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    22 Jan 1998 20:57:06
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    22 Jan 1998 21:51:37
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    22 Jan 1998 21:43:17
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    22 Jan 1998 21:57:19
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    22 Jan 1998 22:01:29
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    22 Jan 1998 22:05:59
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    22 Jan 1998 22:08:49
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    22 Jan 1998 22:14:20
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    22 Jan 1998 22:10:14
Re: IEN Fascists?    Areus    23 Jan 1998 10:45:22
Re: IEN Fascists?    Downer, Chris    22 Jan 1998 22:47:01
Re: IEN Fascists?    gantr@???.edu    22 Jan 1998 21:47:51
Re: IEN Fascists?    Downer, Chris    22 Jan 1998 22:49:32
Re: IEN Fascists?    gantr@???.edu    22 Jan 1998 21:51:46
Re: IEN Fascists?    gantr@???.edu    22 Jan 1998 21:55:54
Re: IEN Fascists?    steve swenson    22 Jan 1998 23:02:00
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    22 Jan 1998 23:07:20
Re: IEN Fascists?    steve swenson    22 Jan 1998 23:15:46
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    22 Jan 1998 23:10:45
Re: IEN Fascists?    steve swenson    22 Jan 1998 23:23:32
Re: IEN Fascists?    Downer, Chris    22 Jan 1998 23:27:28
Re: IEN Fascists?    steve swenson    22 Jan 1998 23:28:18
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    22 Jan 1998 23:25:25
Re: IEN Fascists?    Downer, Chris    22 Jan 1998 23:29:45
Re: IEN Fascists?    Downer, Chris    22 Jan 1998 23:32:15
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    22 Jan 1998 23:36:41
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    22 Jan 1998 23:31:45
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    22 Jan 1998 23:43:44
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    22 Jan 1998 23:45:25
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    22 Jan 1998 23:47:34
Re: IEN Fascists?    Downer, Chris    22 Jan 1998 23:58:20
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    22 Jan 1998 23:48:30
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    22 Jan 1998 23:51:15
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    23 Jan 1998 00:15:51
Re: IEN Fascists?    Jeremy G.    23 Jan 1998 01:16:10
Re: IEN Fascists?    Jeremy G.    23 Jan 1998 01:18:33
Re: IEN Fascists?    Wilson, M.D.    22 Jan 1998 13:45:10
Re: IEN Fascists?    Jeremy G.    23 Jan 1998 01:30:54
Re: IEN Fascists?    Downer, Chris    23 Jan 1998 19:25:14
IEN Fascists?    David Sarkies    24 Jan 1998 03:57:58
Re: IEN Fascists?    David Sarkies    24 Jan 1998 04:00:51
IEN Fascists?    gantr@???.edu    18 Jan 1998 15:54:39
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    26 Jan 1998 02:05:07
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    26 Jan 1998 02:07:49
Re: IEN Fascists?    Daniel K. Sheff    26 Jan 1998 02:53:11
Re: IEN Fascists?    Daniel K. Sheff    26 Jan 1998 03:02:30
Re: IEN Fascists?    Daniel K. Sheff    26 Jan 1998 03:04:35
Re: IEN Fascists?    Daniel K. Sheff    26 Jan 1998 03:15:06
Re: IEN Fascists?    Daniel K. Sheff    26 Jan 1998 03:18:58
Re: IEN Fascists?    Wilson, M.D.    26 Jan 1998 21:26:30
Re: IEN Fascists?    Downer, Chris    27 Jan 1998 16:16:09
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    27 Jan 1998 22:28:53
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2    27 Jan 1998 22:36:25
Re: IEN Fascists?    Wilson, M.D.    26 Jan 1998 21:26:30
Re: IEN Fascists?    Michael Childs    31 Jan 1998 16:12:12
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2@???.com    31 Jan 1998 17:55:32
Re: IEN Fascists?    DiabloChico    31 Jan 1998 22:31:05
Re: IEN Fascists?    Michael Childs    01 Feb 1998 16:43:34
Re: IEN Fascists?    gantr@???.edu    01 Feb 1998 18:21:04
Re: IEN Fascists?    Voidwolf@???.com    02 Feb 1998 03:32:02
Re: IEN Fascists?    Michael Childs    02 Feb 1998 14:26:39
Re: IEN Fascists?    steve swenson    02 Feb 1998 15:39:03
Re: IEN Fascists?    Michael Childs    02 Feb 1998 16:37:58
Re: IEN Fascists?    Downer, Chris    02 Feb 1998 18:44:10
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2@???.com    03 Feb 1998 22:32:19
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2@???.com    03 Feb 1998 22:34:48
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2@???.com    03 Feb 1998 22:42:39
Re: IEN Fascists?    Magistar2@???.com    03 Feb 1998 22:48:17
Re: IEN Fascists?    gantr@???.edu    03 Feb 1998 22:55:39
IEN Fascists?    David Sarkies    04 Feb 1998 12:47:55
Re: IEN Fascists?    gantr@???.edu    04 Feb 1998 15:44:45
Re: IEN Fascists?    Downer, Chris    09 Feb 1998 17:06:47
Re: IEN Fascists?    Daniel Sheff    16 Feb 1998 03:38:54
Re: IEN Fascists?    Downer, Chris    19 Feb 1998 20:32:22
Re: IEN Fascists?    Sue Brown    19 Feb 1998 21:03:46
Re: IEN Fascists?    Kevin Scardino    19 Feb 1998 21:45:14
Re: IEN Fascists?    Downer, Chris    20 Feb 1998 17:09:39

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