Re: Unhuman War

> 	Actually, I'm talking about Unhuman war I, not II.  Still, high
> level
> goblin mages do break one rule: level limits.  If creatures should be
> able to break them or not is an entirely different, and equally
> complex,
> discussion.
>
Well the thing about this is that you have to go with what makes sense
to you. I use the level limit as a limit of knowledge that an
individual, nation or race have. For example, if a Goblin nation has
Mage level limits of third level, this means that their Magic knowledge
limit at this time is 3rd level. Just like Earth year 1601 was Tech
level 3 (medieval technology) I use the GURPS Tech level chart for this.
Basically I use the standard level for a race or nation in a class as a
limit to their technology. I hope I'm making sense here.


> 	Oh, I agree.  The only problem is that in all adventures and
> suppliments that I've seen, the ancient goblin-kin fit the "dumb
> brutes"
> to the tee.  Especially the ogres, whom are protrayed in "Goblin's
> Return" as barely sentient brutes who act as cheap labor.  And the
> ships
> that the goblins fly around in don't exactly help either.
>
Well that is when you have to alter the personality to get away from the
ways the modules portray them.
I will have to go back and read the ship states.

> 	One of the main problems with the notion of "goblin worlds" is
> that the
> "official" stuff indicates that the heaviest fighting was in Greyspace
> and Realmspace.  If there were goblin worlds, wouldn't the majority of
> the fighting be closer to them (thou you could counter-argue that
> those
> spheres were distant and that "known space" didn't hear about the
> fighting that went on there).
>
I would have either Goblin worlds or colonies in these sphere, but that
is just me. They really do not go into too much details of the other
planets in these spheres.



> 	One reason I like spelljamming the best: it allows you to break
> the
> mold.  If you don't like something, throw it out or toss in a distant
> sphere that no one has ever heard of.  Good points thou.  I figured
> that
> there were "goblin worlds" out there, but none have been detailed yet
> (Armistice doesn't count because it was colonied after the war).  I
> have
> always felt that Spelljamming's greatest weakness was that there was
> no
> official "setting."  Realmspace, Greyspace, and Krynnspace may be
> good,
> but to make the whole mesh together, you need much more.  Perhaps a
> sphere guide with the closest 12 spheres would have made the
> difference.  Oh well.  That's all history now.  Thanks for the
> response.
>
	I run it this way, All AD&D worlds except Planescape and
Ravenloft are in some sphere somewhere in the Flow. I have not yet made
a chart, but you are right, they should make a Sphere guide.