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From: Adam Miller <nghtdrud@??????.net> Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 07:32:38 -0500 Subject: Re: Unhuman War
Ok, now that silliness is over, I do want to ask a serious question. The first Unhuman war was a fight between the elves and goblin-kin, right? Well, the question is: exactly how was it that the goblin-kin ever became so dangerous that a war was needed to fight them? Before you answer, please consider these points: *Goblin-kin are weak. The stardard goblin, orc, and kobold is less than 1 HD. I've found that they are too pitiful to send against any party of higher level than 6th (I believe that most spelljamming officers would be a minimum of 8th, just to afford the finances of the game). So thus, unless a crew parked they're ship next to the Citadel of Many Arrows, goblins would be unable to take the ship by force. *Goblin-kin are poor. Spelljamming costs money. Big money. I once calculated a good hammership out to 1 million gp, w/out magic weapons. Only the most massive tribe could afford such finances, and I would imagine they would be more likely to spend that money to buy allies to attack ground-based targets (such as hiring ogre mercs to lead the attack on an elvish outpost). In addition, would the Arcane, whom are cowards in the extreme, put their lives on the line by visiting such a "backwater and barbaric" people, just to sell a single minor helm? (the goblins would most likely decide the Arcane would make a good dinner). *Goblin-kin magic is weak. The highest level of spellcaster that they have is what, 7th? That means that the REALLY deadly spells and magic is wll out of their reach (ever think of what a well-placed Cloudkill could do to even an ogre ship (remember, no save unless you have more than 4 HD)). Their ships would be slow and weak on magic, easy pickings for a group of adventurers or a well-equiped elvish ship (I'd imagine that their ships would have to be roughly equal to really good adventurers, otherwise the fleet would be extinct by now). *The psycological barrier. Spelljamming is a concept that is very hard to grasp, at least as far as ordinary people go. Going into space (the great unknown) can make one feel meek and frighten even the bravest soul (for this effect, I refer to Into the Void, where Telden was reduced to a near-child-like state at least once). Space is a very dangerous enviroment. Given the already weak magic of the goblins, they would have a very hard time compensating for any disasters that may strike. In all likelyhood, they would keep any ships that they would aquire close to home, to use as battle platforms to attack enemy targets. These are all the obsicles that I can think of right now, but I'm sure there are many more. I post this only out of couriosity. I want to see what you guys can come up with, as I've already developed some ideas of my own, which I'll post later. Night Druid.
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Month Index: July, 1997
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| Unhuman War | Adam Miller | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | Jonathan Stevenson | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | Adam Miller | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | Ze`ev Posner | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | Adam Miller | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | Static | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | Adam Miller | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | Jeremy G. | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | Static | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | Static | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | Jeremy G. | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | Jeremy G. | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | Matthew Dean Reynolds | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | scott@??????.????????.com | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | Robert7117@???.com | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | Adam Miller | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | Adam Miller | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | Mutami@???.com | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | Jeremy G. | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | Static | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | Hand of God | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | Static | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | Niall Hosking | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | Mystaros@???.com | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | Static | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | Jeremy G. | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | Mutami@???.com | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | Robert7117@???.com | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | S. Wilson | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | S. Wilson | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | S. Wilson | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | S. Wilson | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | Adam Miller | |||
| Unhuman War | Ford Timelord | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | Wilson, M.D. | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | gaijin@???????.???.net | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | Darrell Lalonde | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | Mutami | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | Wilson, M.D. | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | Abe Brown | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | Static | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | Mutami | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | Shane Bryan | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | Shane Bryan | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | daqueri | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | John McCloud | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | Wilson, M.D. | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | Kevin Scardino | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | Static | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | John McCloud | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | Adam Miller | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | Adam Miller | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | Wilson, M.D. | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | Abe Brown | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | Static | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | daqueri | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | Mutami | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | Mutami | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | Mutami | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | Mutami | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | Mutami | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | David Sarkies | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | gaijin@???????.???.net | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | gaijin@???????.???.net | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | gaijin@???????.???.net | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | Wilson, M.D. | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | gaijin@???????.???.net | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | gaijin@???????.???.net | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | Wilson, M.D. | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | gaijin@???????.???.net | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | Shane Bryan | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | Shane Bryan | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | Static | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | Lee Derieux | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | Sue Brown | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | Sue Brown | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | John McCloud | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | John McCloud | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | gaijin@???????.???.net | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | Mutami | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | daqueri | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | Mutami | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | Jeremy G. | |||
| Unhuman War | mfaison | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | Wilson, M.D. | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | gaijin@???????.???.net | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | gaijin@???????.???.net | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | Wilson, M.D. | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | Static | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | Wilson, M.D. | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | JBB3@???????.net | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | Wilson, M.D. | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | Wilson, M.D. | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | Toby Mekelburg | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | daqueri | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | gaijin@???????.???.net | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | gantr@???.edu | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | gaijin@???????.???.net | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | gaijin@???????.???.net | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | gaijin@???????.???.net | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | Wilson, M.D. | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | Downer, Chris | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | Wilson, M.D. | |||
| Unhuman War | kniese@????????.nl | |||
| Unhuman War | kniese@????????.nl | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | gaijin@???????.???.net | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | Mutami | |||
| Re: Unhuman War | John McCloud |