Re: Runedarspace-New Sphere

Greetings,

In our last episode, Toby Mekelburg said:
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> The major garrisons usually have an Imperial Magi(half-elven or human),
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	These dwarves seem much less conserned with racial purity.  I
wonder if they'd really be open minded enough to give major roles 
(communication, helm piloting, etc.) to non-dwarves.

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>Still, from all the published sources of elves in AD&D, they'd be the last
>race you'd expect to take an active role in space. I guess my view of elves
>is slightly colored, due to my first exposure of AD&D elves in the DL
>Chronicles(highly insular and arrogant, hate humans at first), and the
>Realms(oh woe is me we're in decline!).

	I got my start with elves a bit before DL came out, but I was
also affected by that material.  In fact, I think that the IEN -- or
whatever the militaristic part is called -- fits pretty well with the
Realmsean elves (the "Woe is me" type).  I always envisioned the 
militant elves to be the ones who realised that the "win-by-outliving-
your-enemies" approach wasn't as successful as it seemed, so they took
up arms to defend "elven interests".  This view also lends itself to 
the "I hate non-elves" type of elves.  Both types should exist since
the elven races is not a monolithic entity -- despite what the "Let's
reunite all the elves" type of elves want you to think.

RE: IEN vs EIN:  I think I've seen it both ways in official products.

> I could view a groundling empire of
>elves, but to me the EIN or IEN(which the hell is it anyway??) doesn't hold
>the traditional elven view, although they do think of themselves as the
>"defenders" of the spheres. Of course, I have nothing against using the
>elves as a major power in space(elves are my favorite race) as its a
>welcome departure from the typical elven stereotype.

	What if "Defenders of the spheres" is just a side effect
of the "Defend elven interests" view.  Any benifit to non-elves is 
incidental.  BTW, what do you consider to be the "traditional elven
view"?  (I really am curious.  I still have a hard time deciding what
it is.)  The space elves' biggest difference from "traditional [groundling]
elves" is that space elves have gotten fed up with human -- and humanoid
-- expansion, and have decided to act instead of waiting for the trouble
to go away.  (i.e. Space elves are proactive, and groundling elves are
reactive.)

>On another note, the dwarves of Runedarspace will be surprised once they
>try to re-establish contact with the "young" dwarven realm of Delzoun on
>Toril <g>.

	I'm not up on the Realms.  What's so different about these "young"
dwarves from Delzoun?

-Static

ps.  This discussion is great! :)  I don't think I've thought this
much about elves and dwarves in a *long* time...

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