Re: Illithid PCs!!!

Greeetings,

	Some parts were cut out of the revision, so I'm commenting here... (:

In our last episode, Forest T Pavel said:
>Illithids

	In general, I think you made their stats too close to human.
Illithid are definately *not* human (and I don't care what Astromundi
Cluster says).

>Ability score            Min/Max                               Adj.
>Strength                    3/18                                    -2

	I'd make it a -4 penalty.  After all, they're not know for
their physical prowess, as someone already said.

>Dexterity                    5/18                                    -1
>
>Constitution             3/17                                    -2

	I like the -2.

>Intelligence             11/19                                  +2
>Wisdom                    5/18                                   +1
>Charisma                 3/16                                    -2

	Only a -2!?!?  Maybe to each other, but I'd make it more like
-5 or -6 towards non-Illithid.

>Racial Abilities:

	[Snip]

>	2)Can attack with tentacle per once per round (2 points damage
>for each successful attack), each successful hit latches one tentacle to
>the skull of the victim.  If all four tentacles attach, then the victim
>dies in 1d4 rounds, unless they can break the illithid's grip.  A
>tentacle can be torn from a skull with a successful bend bars/ lift gates
>roll (accomplishing this does 1d6+Str adj. damage to the illithid, and
>any damage over 15 points to a single tentacle rips that tentacle from
>the ilithid's face).

	This is a bit silly.  Though AD&D combat is abstract, I'd still
require the Illithid to somehow have their victim immobilized.  At least
make them wrestle.  The tentacles aren't long enough for anything but
short range (unless the individual is extremely well endowed), and a good
helmet would completely nullify their usefullness.  Also the damage that
an Illithid takes when a tentacle is pulled of the skull seems reather
large.  Maybe 1d6 (or 1d8) + damage bonus.

>	3)3% magic resistance per level.

	I've always been wary of giving MR to PC's.

>	4)At 3rd level the illithid gains the use of the following
>spell-like powers: charm person, ESP (use as if wizard of same level as
>illithid)
>	5)At 9th level the illithid gains the use of the following
>spell-like powers: suggestion, charm monster, levitate (use as if wizard
>of same level as illithid)

	Make levitate available sooner, as somebody commented.  I'd
put it around 3rd level.

>	6)At 13th level the illithid gains the use of the following
>spell-like power: astral projection (use as if wizard of same level as
>illithid)
>	7)At 15th level the illithid gains the use of the following
>spell-like power: plane shift (use as if wizard of same level as
>illithid)

	How often can these powers be used?

>Class and level limits:  (cannot be multi- or dual-classed)

	No multi-classed characters is a bit harsh.  I'd actually reverse
that and say that *all* Illithid are multi-classed Psionicists.

>Fighter 17

	9 max.

>Cleric 16

	Illithid priests?  What a novel concept... (:  I'd drop the level
though.

>Mage 16 (to become a mage an illithid must forfeit its magic resistance)

	I'd drop the max level and let them keep magic resistance (if
it wasn't already dropped due to my previous comment... (: )

>Theif 15

	If I'd allow Illithid rogues, I'd probably keep that max level.
I havn't thought about them enough though...

>Psionicist U (to become a psionicist an illithid loses all spell-like
>abilities and mind                          blast, but retains magic
>resistance)

>Natural Armor Class: 5

	Does their armor cost more?  In the SJ novels, Estriss was
described as having weird shoulders, which may affect their shape.

>Illithid have no sex.

	Bummer.

>Well, that's about it.  If you like it, great!  If you don't, then you
>can just $^*& (just kidding).  Post suggestion please.  Oh yeah, I'm
>working on Illithid and Neogi Capital ships, expect them soon.

	Once again I'd like to stress that illithids are not human, and
shouldn't be adjusted to fit a more humanlike curve.

	Hope that wasn't too much help... (:

-Static

ps.  Can't wait to see the capital ships!

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