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From:     James Perry <jperry@??.net>
Date:     Sun, 28 Jul 1996 15:50:15 -0500
Subject:  Re: Create Helms
>Shelby Michlin wrote:
>>
>> Also, imagine the efforts the Arcane would go to in order to prevent their
>> monopoly being threatened? Even if there were an all-out war between them
>> and this "Arcane-hunter" race, I don't see others developing the magic
>> "tech" spontaneously. Shouldn't such a major discovery take a significant
>> amount of time? How long has Spelljamming been around? Even if the Arcane
>> weren't the first, they're the only helm-creators now, and have been so for
>> some time. Suppose they've been killing off any researchers who got close,
>> and destroying their work? New Leonardo's have to start from scratch, right?
>>
>> I think we can agree that a lack of continuity is responsible for any
>> reference to non-Arcane creation of helms. Say, rather, that these geniuses
>> worked out a proposal and presented their ideas to the Arcane, for practical
>> application. And perhaps *then* they were killed!
>>
>	Two things here.  First, the "tech" would not be
>as spontaneous as you make it sound.  The research has been
>going on for years. There had to have been a few who have
>gotten close and mananged to get their notes to survive when
>the Arcane came for them.  But then again - it could just
>happen "spontaneously".
>	According to TSR rules, to research a new magic
>item definitely takes no more than 1 year (given good rolls).
>Combine that with the fact that you have the finished item
>in front of you during the research, reverse engineering
>becomes very simple.  So, making a helm wouldn't take that
>long by straight core rules.
>
>	Second thing.  Given that the Arcane had the monoply
>and are KNOWN to deal harshly with those who threaten it, why
>would any inventer even go to them in the first place?
>
>	Besides, if you remember my post (which you must,
>since you mentioned the "Arcane-hunters"), you'll see that
>it doesn't matter if the Arcane really have the monoply or
>not - everyone just THINKS that they do, which is close
>enough.

Ok...I've seen a lot of these messages about creating helms (though probably
weeks after everybody else, my server's been down, and I just got 129
messages), and I was wondering: does anyone out there ue another system of
powering ships through space?  I was thinking about the Champions of Mystara
boxed set (which I finally got), it gives rules for creating ships using
mundane techniques (cast fly spell/create wood a whole bunch of times, and
*poof* airship)...well, maybe not mundane, but more so than buying from the
Arcane...i was thinking of incorporating this aspect into my next campaign
(if there is one...I need players :(.  Well...tell me what you think about
it...I know a few of you out there have this set.

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SubjectFromDate (UTC)
Re: Create Helms    Ken Lipka    23 Jul 1996 18:45:35
Re: Create Helms    Shelby Michlin    24 Jul 1996 00:54:13
Re: Create Helms    Eugene Shumu1insky    24 Jul 1996 02:56:55
Re: Create Helms    Ken Lipka    24 Jul 1996 12:06:07
Re: Create Helms    Thomas O. Magann Jr.    24 Jul 1996 21:04:10
Re: Create Helms    Kevin Scardino    24 Jul 1996 21:23:41
Re: Create Helms    Thomas O. Magann Jr.    24 Jul 1996 21:56:18
Re: Create Helms    Shelby Michlin    25 Jul 1996 01:02:24
Re: Create Helms    Steven R. Martindale    25 Jul 1996 05:06:56
Re: Create Helms    Thomas O. Magann Jr.    25 Jul 1996 05:15:07
Re: Create Helms    James Perry    28 Jul 1996 20:50:15
Re: Create Helms    Ivan A. Finzen IV    29 Jul 1996 03:55:46
Re: Create Helms    James Perry    30 Jul 1996 18:52:22
Re: Create Helms    Truls Rostrup    31 Jul 1996 15:41:10
Re: Create Helms    George Hernandez    31 Jul 1996 16:55:05
Re: Create Helms    Eugene Shumu1insky    31 Jul 1996 17:08:52
Re: Create Helms    James Perry    31 Jul 1996 19:04:08
Re: Create Helms    George Hernandez    02 Aug 1996 15:07:00
Re: Create Helms    Eugene Shumu1insky    02 Aug 1996 17:17:29
Re: Create Helms    Thomas O. Magann Jr.    02 Aug 1996 19:12:11
Re: Create Helms    Eugene Shumu1insky    02 Aug 1996 19:23:38
Re: Create Helms    Thomas O. Magann Jr.    02 Aug 1996 19:33:39
Re: Create Helms    Paul Westermeyer    02 Aug 1996 19:45:59
Re: Create Helms    Eugene Shumu1insky    02 Aug 1996 19:37:34
Re: Create Helms    Thomas O. Magann Jr.    02 Aug 1996 19:48:20
Re: Create Helms    James Perry    03 Aug 1996 19:40:28
Re: Create Helms    Thomas O. Magann Jr.    03 Aug 1996 20:22:01

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