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From:     Leroy Van Camp III <van891@??????.edu>
Date:     Wed, 26 Jun 1996 19:04:53 -0700 (PDT)
Subject:  Re: A New Class for the SJ setting...

On Tue, 25 Jun 1996, Ken Lipka wrote:

> <description of Pilot Class removed>
>
> 	I like the idea of a class dedicated to piloting
> ships.  After all, it does stretch the bounds of believeability
> (even for TSR) that every single ship out there has a classed
> mage or priest at the helm.  However, as for the class you
> described...
>
> 	It seems you are trying to making some kind of
> kindler, gentler, munchkin here.  (No offense, just my
> impression.)

    No problem.  In retrospect I believe the class may be a bit over
powered.  But I do have to disagree with "munchkin".  Munchkin is a
function of people and their playing attitudes, not games or their
classes.
    I don't see too much of a problem with it in my own camapigns; I will
mostly use it is an NPC class, only allowing a player to use it if they
have a good story and background, which munhkins seem to have a problem
with.

  Let's see:  fights as warrior, hit points of
> cleric (with Fighter CON), spells as mage (but only from
> two schools), advance as thief.  Too many crossovers.

    I am not sure what you mean by "crossovers".  Although they use
certain things that other classes use, like the d8 for HP's, they are not
taken from that class.  They advance more rapidly, using the thief table,
because they have less to advance, not because they are thieves.
    I believe when I do my own official writeup I will remove the CON
bonus and the multiple attacks as a fighter.  That should balance things
out.  I used the new character rules in the DMG and it wa fairly close.

> 	What you seem to want is a Bard Kit.  This
> gives you your thief XP, already has limited mage abilities
> thrown in, and already has some of the armor and weapon
> restrictions you mentioned.

    I did base the classes abilities off of the Bard, in a gave and take
manner, but I don't see them as bards.  I have them as a fighter
sub-class.

  Since the Bard is a Rogue, it
> is now quite believable to have hordes of these things
> running around the game.

    There aren't necessarily _hordes_ of them.  Most of the ones on the
ground I see as 0-level, with a bit of training.  With another month of
training they would be first level.

> 	Hmm... I may have to actually work this out and
> submit it to the list to see what you all think.  (No
> promises though.)

    Hope to see it.  I am always willing to steal ideas. :)


 van891@??????.edu         Leroy Van Camp III        owner-mystara-l@??.com
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A New Class for the SJ setting...    Leroy Van Camp III    22 Jun 1996 08:47:48
Re: A New Class for the SJ setting...    Thomas O. Magann Jr.    23 Jun 1996 00:32:36
Re: A New Class for the SJ setting...    Paul Westermeyer    23 Jun 1996 02:57:43
Re: A New Class for the SJ setting...    Leroy Van Camp III    23 Jun 1996 08:04:42
Re: A New Class for the SJ setting...    Leroy Van Camp III    23 Jun 1996 09:03:24
Re: A New Class for the SJ setting...    Shelby Michlin    23 Jun 1996 16:01:45
Re: A New Class for the SJ setting...    Paul Westermeyer    23 Jun 1996 15:04:54
Re: A New Class for the SJ setting...    Thomas O. Magann Jr.    23 Jun 1996 20:31:57
Re: A New Class for the SJ setting...    Leroy Van Camp III    24 Jun 1996 10:55:04
Re: A New Class for the SJ setting...    sinny@?????????.net    24 Jun 1996 12:31:30
Re: A New Class for the SJ setting...    Eugene Shumu1insky    24 Jun 1996 14:53:47
Re: A New Class for the SJ setting...    Eugene Shumu1insky    24 Jun 1996 14:55:55
Re: A New Class for the SJ setting...    Thomas O. Magann Jr.    24 Jun 1996 20:25:42
Re: A New Class for the SJ setting...    Ken Lipka    25 Jun 1996 12:06:20
Re: A New Class for the SJ setting...    Jamie Cavanagh    25 Jun 1996 15:02:20
Re: A New Class for the SJ setting...    Jamie Cavanagh    25 Jun 1996 21:54:53
A New Class for the SJ setting...    Leroy Van Camp III    27 Jun 1996 02:04:53
Re: A New Class for the SJ setting...    Ken Lipka    27 Jun 1996 12:08:02
Re: A New Class for the SJ setting...    Jamie Cavanagh    27 Jun 1996 13:09:17

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