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From:     Leroy Van Camp III <van891@??????.edu>
Date:     Fri, 13 Oct 1995 08:13:13 -0700 (PDT)
Subject:  Re: Mystara and the SJ/PS paradigm

On Fri, 13 Oct 1995, Ken Lipka wrote:

> Leroy Van Camp III stated:
> >     I have introduced a new concept in planes, called a dimension.  A
> > dimension is, basically, a macro-plane, of which a planar system is
> > "conatained" in.  So, PS's multiverse makes up its own dimension.  And,
> > just like its individual planes are part of a bigger whole, so is the
> > multiverse.  And, the way these dimensions are set up can vary quite a
> > bit.
> >     What this does is to allow Mystara to be integrated into the SPP with
> > little change.  The above mentioned examples remain unaltered, yet they
> > can interact with SJ and PS elements.
> >
> 	A neat idea, but far too much work for the integration.

    Looking over your response, I believe my idea could have been better
written, because there seems to be some confusion here.  The whole
dimension thing takes virtually zero work to integrate.

> 	That simple equation eliminates the need for all of the mental
> gymnastics associated with trying to figure out which dimensional outer plane
> some god is on.

    I'm not sure what you mean here.  I'll try again, from a different
    Take the multiverse, as delineated in the Planescape setting.  Nothing
has changed; all the planes are the same, and all they gods are in the
same place.  Again, nothing changes here.
    Now, as an example, take the concept of demi-planes.  Although they
are, for the most part, planes unto themselves, with laws of reality of
their own, they are contained within another plane, the Ethereal.
    OK?  Now, imagine that the multiverse, like demi-planes, is contained
within a larger, macro-plane.  This does not change the multiverse, it
just makes it a part of a larger whole.
    Now, imagaine that this macro-plane, or dimension, is a part of a
"community" of dimensions, like each Outer Plane is part of a bigger
whole.  Each of these dimensions has it's own layout and laws.  For
example, the dimension that the crashed spaceship is from is layed out
like our own, as detailed in the Wrath of the Immortals.
    Between each dimesnion is a barrier that works to prevent
cross-traffic, just like planar barriers, only stronger.  For some reason,
this barrier is weak in Mystaraspace.
    What this concept does is...

1)  It allows the history and concepts of the other-dimensional elements
of Mystara to be retained without _any_ changes.  By not having to
shoehorn these elements into the multiverse, much work is eliminated.

2)  It does the above without making a single change to the multiverse

    The dimesnion concept is a pain free, no work idea that allows the
Mystara setting to be integrated into the SJ/PS paradigm, while still
retaining its history and flavor.

               Leroy Van Camp III      van891@??????.edu
               "Cthulhu, eh?  I'll try and backstab him"

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Mystara and the SJ/PS paradigm    Leroy Van Camp III    12 Oct 1995 23:31:28
Re: Mystara and the SJ/PS paradigm    Ken Lipka    13 Oct 1995 12:50:05
Re: Mystara and the SJ/PS paradigm    Leroy Van Camp III    13 Oct 1995 15:13:13

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